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Corona, Mail Lists Contact Trace & GDPR:
For all events announced on all Berklix lists, expect similar
to note at top of www .
berklix . org /bg /
INDEX
Help for normal subscribers
- Mailman is a globally
well known free list server software.
- wikipedia .
org has a review page.
- Mailman also runs on Berklix . Org
- HELP INFO:
List Members Manual, (for all Mailman servers
Globally, not specific to Berklix) :
- How to
join or
leave a list.
- Every list posting contains headers
& footers with links to leave, join, & change
options.
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NO FREE HELP ! - RULE #1 : DO NOT WASTE LIST MANAGERS'
TIME!
Do Not Mail Subscription Change Requests To
Lists, Event Organisers, Or List, Mailman
Or Server Administrators !
We have Zero Free Time. Most requests are automatically
silently deleted unseen by humans.
Read the Documentation, Use The Robot,
Do It Yourself !
All lists are free, you pay Nothing, are not advertised
at, not harvested, & your membership is worth Nothing
to the domain admin: you are equally entitled to the same
Nothing. Automatic service from the Robot
is free but human time is not available to waste. The computer
consultant wastes No free time helping individuals.
He only give time free to maintain the servers &
software, to benefit all equally & most efficiently.
Don't futilely waste your time, annoying just yourself,
demanding help you won't get. You have no option but to
read the documentation, & Learn to Help Yourself
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Additional to the web
interface, you can also join & leave lists by email
commands, eg syntax from
www . mail - archive . com / mailman - users % 40python .
org / msg69025 . html
To: listname-request@mailman.berklix.org
[un]subscribe [password] [digest|nodigest]
[address=<address>]
Subscribe to this mailing list. Your password must be
given to unsubscribe or change your options, but if you
omit the password, one will be generated for you. You
may be periodically reminded of your password.
The next argument may be either: `nodigest' or
`digest' (no quotes!). If you wish to subscribe an
address other than the address you sent this request
from, you may specify `address=
' (no brackets around the email address, and no
quotes!)
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-
All lists silently discard mail from all non members.
- Join a list before writing
- Avoids spam,
- Avoids wasting list owners time,
- Avoids delay waiting for a moderator,
- Avoids list members only receiving what an
unwanted moderator = censor might otherwise
approve.
- Lazy clueless requests posted to a whole list,
asking someone to unsubscribe you - are silently
discarded. Do It Yourself ! See Links in headers & footers.
- If you write to a list & its not broadcast, it
is Never because it was moderated or censored. Berklix
lists have no moderators = censors. You either never
had a right to write that list, or maybe you wrote with
a From: header that does not match your list
membership.
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- Many lists are announcement only, (only a
subset are identified as LISTNAME-announce@)
unless you are an organiser, do not write to them, your
reply would be automatically discarded or rejected,
unseen by any human except you.
- Many lists have an adjacent organisers list
LISTNAME-org@ you can write to, only if you are a
member of LISTNAME@
- A few lists have LISTNAME-chat@, unmoderated,
writable by all members of LISTNAME-chat@. If the noise
gets too much, unsubscribe the LISTNAME-chat@ &
just stay on LISTNAME[-announce]@ list.
- Technical discussion lists are open to all members.
(generally just the non tech lists are restricted to
announce only, because of the much higher percentage of
incompetents, & clueless- to- lists people on some
non tech. sports & social lists)
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- You don't need to remember passwords for each list:
(You don't even need to remember a single passwords,
though it helps if you do).
- You can forget passwords if you want: You can go to
a page under mailman.
berklix. org/ mailman/ listinfo, type in your mail
address Mailman
uses to mail to you (see that in your headers), & click
"Remind"
- When you join a list (or were joined automatically
by bulk import from the previous Majordomo
equivalent list) Mailman
automatically assigns you a different password for each
list (unless you tell it otherwise).
- You can change your password for any list to
whatever you want, to replace the random one you were
give.
- To change password, for an example list called
Test:
Go to mailman
. berklix . org / mailman / listinfo / test scroll
down to end section "Test Subscribers" type your email
address in box to left of "Unsubscribe or edit options"
(Don't worry it wont unsubscribe you unless you tell it
to later) go down the bottom of a page such as mailman.
berklix. org/ mailman/ options/ test to "Change
Your Password" where you can also click "Change
globally."
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Lost Mail & Missed
Postings
- If you think you may have missed postings: Check
the archives.
- If you posted & you didn't get a copy: Check
the archives; Also check your options for that list: Mailman
specifically has an option NoMail
(usually Off by default) to Not send you a list copy of
what you send to list.
- If a subscriber didn't receive your posting, tell
him/her to check the archives. Once Subscriber has the
list posting, he & his provider can analyse body of
mail to see if his/her anti spam filter might have
blocked it. They can also check a previous posting for
clues on routing & false spam domain detection
& rejection.
- To test if you can send to lists Do Not Send To A
Normal List; Instead join mailman.
berklix. org/ mailman/ listinfo/ test
- If you make postings to test@
Berklix & you can see them in Berklix
test@ archive, then consider if maybe you or your
provider are blocking Berklix, or possibly you asserted
the NoMail attribute on your
subscription.
(NoMail is something no one
normally turns on, except people who have multiple
addresses registered with Robot
(to allow sending from multiple addresses) while they
have all but one marked "NoMail"
to avoid receiving multiple copies from list).
- If in doubt, Sender should also ask failing
Subscriber to also join test@
so the two of you can run test transmissions without
disturbing normal list memberships.
- Please Do not ask list owner, as I think Mailman
doesn't keep those logs (not had time to check
yet).
- Please Do not ask system administrator as Very
Busy, & Sendmail logs have masses of spam rejects
to wade through, only worth doing for serious domain to
domain size problems, not for individual subscriptions
please.
- Limitations are also covered on Lists Page, the 2 pages need a text
merge
- Smaller & technical lists are open to all members
to post. No moderators, no censors.
- Larger non technical lists are announcements only by
organisers, since lazy & incompetent people used to
post change requests to lists, instead of to Robot.
- Anonymous names not allowed. We don't need trolls
posting provocations as in forums.
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Any mail to Any list, with a From: address that is not an
exact match for a member of that list, is Silently
Automatically Discarded, unseen by Any human including
you. Why:
It's Self Defence. : The internet is now infested by
spammers masquerading as others. Human list owners,
mail list Robot
owners & mail server owners here are not prepared
to waste their unpaid free time to solve extra problems
that arise from spammers, clueless & even a few
malicious mailing where they should not.
Yes some lists on some domains, people volunteer to
be `moderators', but moderator can equal censor, so can
be perceived to degrade list freedom. (Amazing that
some moderators elsewhere like force list members to
trust them: Least trust those who most want to be a
moderator/ censor!). Result here of not allowing non
members to post, is freedom from censorship for
subscribed members
- If you are a member of a list, & your posts are not
appearing on list, its your problem to examine your
incoming list mail, examine your headers, & see who the list Robot
send to, likely you have sent from a new address, & robot
still has you listed at your old address.
- Fix your issues yourself, sorry, the list owners at
Berklix have no time to help.
- Join test@
list to send yourself diagnostic tests. Do Not send test
posts to live normal lists!
-
Though individuals can afford to receive &
delete 40K mails, mail lists can not, as lists are
archived & the archives bloat with un-necessary
graphics included by senders by default.
Example: In Jan. 2020 A post to bg-org@
failed as it was too big, so Mailman
automatically blocked it from recipient list, delaying
it by diverting to owner. The problem was the mail
included an image/jpeg, a superfluous employer's large
corporate business card, 29267 bytes, as graphical JPEG
image data, JFIF standard 1.01, which with Ascii armour
for MIME to enclose it + text (+ possibly header size)
exceeded list post limit of 40K.
Vcards enable recipients to mouse klick your contact
info direct into their address books, without them
staring at your bulky graphical image, searching which
text should be typed into which field of their address
book.
Wikipedia articles on Vcard: English &
German
- Enclosure Formats:
Use publicly defined non proprietary formats. The mail
lists uses computers & net connectivity supplied to
promote BSD
& other free public standard software. Do not use
them to post or advertise inimicable proprietary formats
promoted by monopolists, eg do Not post Microsoft .Doc
etc)
- If you will be changing your email machine address,
remove yourself from lists before your old address ceases
to work. Then sign up with new address.
- If you change your name because you get married or
similar, you can deal with that yourself on the server,
just delete yourself, & re-join with new name.
- If you die, or similar, whoever inherits your email
address can unsubscribe you from any lists easily, 'cos all
the headers & footers point at Mailman
& then one fills the box with your address at "To
unsubscribe from ______, get a password reminder, or change
your subscription options enter your subscription email
address:" Then your executor will receive a new password to
your address, to return to confirm to unsubscribe your
address.
Temporary Restrictions Following
import of all lists from Majordomo to Mailman.
- List.Info files from Majordomo are
not yet merged into Mailman
list pages, possibly might go in Mailman
listinfo pages ?
- List.Intro files not yet imported from Majordomo ...
& where to ? some are Long -possibly to be merged to
locked per list web pages ?
- There is not yet automatic live service backup of
functionality on a server cluster (like Berklix used to
have with Majordomo).
(Then list names may revert back from eg
LIST@mailman.berklix to LIST@lists.berklix)
- There is data backup of lists & archives,
automatically to spare server, + intermittently manually to
secondary backup, off the internet.
- The archives do not contain old archives from Majordomo era
lists. Maybe later, if it seems worth it.
Below Here Not For Normal Users
Technical Features, Only For
Administrators
Software
Features
- Un-subscriptions now easy via web, not just via
mail.
- Preferences setting via web, per user & list.
- English, Dutch French, German, Spanish, etc
responses.
- Automatic timeouts & finally un-subscriptions save
administrator time on repeated bounces
- A nasty killer loop if you don't patch it out.
Hosting
Servers For Comparisons
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Non Berklix Mailman - A few examples of many:
-
Berklix Mailman
URLs in Alphabetic order:
Good in Bold. (Avoid Italics, just for
test).
- berklix .
org / mailman / listinfo
OK: DNS maps 2 servers,
HTTPD redirects to mailman.berklix.org/mailman/listinfo
- land .
berklix . org / mailman / listinfo
Avoid: Physical name of a single server, not
related to which server is Mailman
master/slave. Can change without notice, @2016-10-09
Slave
- list0 .
berklix . org /
OK: Master.
- list1 .
berklix . org / mailman / listinfo
Avoid: name of a single server, Can change
without notice, @2016-10-09 Master.
- list2 .
berklix . org / mailman / listinfo
Avoid: name of a single server, Can change
without notice, @2016-10-09 Slave
- lists .
berklix . org /
OK: DNS maps 2 servers,
HTTPD redirects to mailman . berklix .
org
- mailman
. berklix . org / mailman / listinfo
OK: Master. Official
address.
- slim .
berklix . org / mailman / listinfo
Avoid: Physical name of a single server, not
related to which server is Mailman
master/slave. Can change without notice, @2016-10-09
Master.
- www .
berklix . org / mailman / listinfo
OK: DNS maps 2 servers,
HTTPD redirects to mailman .
berklix . org / mailman / listinfo
- www1 .
berklix . org / mailman / listinfo
Avoid: A name of a single server, not related
to which server is Mailman
master/slave. Can change without notice, @2016-10-09
Slave.
- www2 .
berklix . org / mailman / listinfo
Avoid: A name of a single server, not related
to which server is Mailman
master/slave. Can change without notice, @2016-10-09
Master.
Notes
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cd /usr/local/mailman/bin; ls
FreeBSD-post-install add_members arch b4b5-archfix
change_pw check_db check_perms cleanarch clone_member
config_list convert.py convert.pyc discard dumpdb
export.py export.pyc find_member fix_url.py fix_url.pyc
genaliases inject list_admins list_lists list_members
list_owners mailmanctl mmsitepass msgfmt.py msgfmt.pyc
newlist paths.py paths.pyc qrunner rb-archfix
remove_members reset_pw.py reset_pw.pyc rmlist
show_qfiles sync_members transcheck unshunt update
version withlist
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cd /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin; ls
admin admindb confirm create edithtml listinfo
options private rmlist roster subscribe
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cd /usr/local/mailman/logs; ls -ltr
bounce error mischief post qrunner smtp
smtp-failure subscribe vette
- cd /usr/local/etc/rc.d; ./mailman stop; ./mailman start #
Fixes some config errors.
mailmanctl stop; mailmanctl start
- /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Defaults.py
- /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/mm_cfg.py
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